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what did you say? >> customkerfuffle. >> that is strong! >> what was the last time you were in a kerfuffle, victor? >> i don't know. it's been a while. since i even heard the word! >> first time i've been able to say kerfuffle on tv. i was pretty proud of myself! >> i'll tell you at the break. >> nothing to publicize. thanks, andy. a historic vote in france with the future of the european union at stake. >> reports of a massive hacking attack has drawn immediate comparisons with allegations in the united states. >> were these simply embarrassing as we saw in the case of hillary clinton or something more damaging than that? >> the trump transition team warned former national security adviser michael flynn about his contacts with russia. >> it's not the action but the cover-up that is coming around to bite him. when sally yates testified next week what she is going to say is that the white house lied about
it too. >> the acting attorney general informed the white house counsel the president asked him to conduct a view whether there was a legal situation there. that was immediately determined that there wasn't. ♪ one minute past 7:00 on a sunday morning. we are grateful to wake up with you. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. right now in france, people are voting for the next president there in an election that has turned the established political order upside down. >> today, capping off a bitter fight between the final two candidates. far right national front leader marine le pen and independent centrist emmanuel macron. whatever way it turns out the outcome has implications not just america but the rest of the world as well. >> president trump did not fully endorse le pen directly but did say whoever is the toughest on
radical islamic terrorism will do well. meanwhile, former president barack obama gave a last-minute endorsement to macron. >> i have admired the campaign that emmanuel macron has run. he has stood up for liberal values. he put forward a vision for the important role that france plays in europe and around the world. and he is committed to a better future for the french people. >> now on the eve of the election in an eerily similar situation, the u.s. candidate macron campaign's was hacked. thousands of e-mails dumped. voting ends today at 2:00 p.m. >> we are covering all angles of the election there in france so with our reporters and panelists across the globe, lets start with cnn international anchor hala in paris. >> we have a very significant
number that was published an hour ago. >> reporter: in france you have reporting restrictions that you can't talk about candidate platforms or polls either. what you can report, a benchmark many people use to try to figure on out which candidate is favored by this number and that is voter turnout. so at noon local time, 28.23% of voters in this country turned out to vote. that is lower than five years ago. a low voter turnout number tends to favor the more extremist candidate. in this case, it would be the far right candidate marine le pen. let's talk about what we have seen already. marine le pen cast her ballot in her stronghold. emmanuel macron the centrist candidate cast his ballot along with his wife. incumbent president, the socialist hollande so unpopular decided not to run he cast his ballot today. so what are we going to see this
evening 8:00 p.m. local time? we will see the face of the winner of this pivotal french election appear on television screens across the country. it will be either the candidate who is an anti-eu, anti-globalization, anti-immigration candidate personified by marine le pen. or the established centrist candidate emmanuel macron who embraces international organizations to oppose candidates and this is a pitched battle between two very different idea of where france should head next. >> beyond france, hala, give us what this really means for the rest of the world, beyond the borders. >> so we saw with the brexit vote in the uk with prish voters the majority of british voters deciding in a referendum last year to leave the european union. we also saw with the election of
the u.s. president donald trump. a sort of populace fever sweeping western democracies. will it be the case in france and will le pen come out on top or perhaps a candidate in the person of macron who is more of a mainstream candidate who prefers the status quo in terms of international organizations, not just the european union but nato, but the world trade organization who thinks globalization is actually the way to go as opposed to someone like marine le pen and other far right populace candidates who with, in fact, want to completely disrupt sort of the world order as it is -- as it's been seen over the last several decade. that is the big question. therefore the result of this election will have an impact far beyond the borders of this country for those reasons. >> hala there in paris, thank you. we are joined by marie
suar suarez. what are you hearing from voters in that area? >> reporter: good morning to you. we did see marine le pen arrive two hours or so ago and she cast her vote and looked confident and happy and didn't say a word but we can assume that she voted for herself. but it's important to note why she came here not to pair russ but where she began her campaign some eight months or so ago and this is what she calls the forgotten france, the elites have forgotten about them and she played very well here and really won the hearts and the mind and she is hoping the votes of the people here in northern france, this rust belt of france. two or three years ago the party won a battle here and been in charge three years or so. in comparison it's the last 70 years have been dominated by the socialists and she has been able to make a huge sweep. one of 12 towns across france and playing very much into the key areas that we heard hala
talk about which is the economy and trying to keep jobs at home. locally they have reduced taxes by as many as 10%. people tell us for the first time they are being heard and paying attention. there is a very sharp battle between the two very distinct candidates and it's about the have's and have not's and globalization versus patriotism. people i spoke to this morning said we are not popping the sham bottles just yet and we hope she is going to win and hope she wins. >> >> isa soares, thank you. errol louis and amber phillips are joining us now. thank you both for being here. we just heard from former president obama endorsing
macron. i'm wondering if there is any gauge as to whether the french care what president obama or president trump say about what is happening in their country? because as we sit here and watch it, it does seem very familiar to us, does it not? >> it does seem familiar. there is an enormous popularity, i think, for president obama among the french. that was demonstrated during his presidency. they loved him, franklin. even as long as ago 2008 they were putting him on the front pages of all of their magazines and so forth. i think that he would not have done the ad if macron had not believed that it would help him. so this is an appeal to everything that the le pen voters dislike and distrust which is the notion of sort of an elite elegant banker class
that is not really bearing the burden this a lot of the small towns and a lot of the folks in older industries have really experienced as far as displacement, unemployment, all kind of disillusionment that is out on there. this is something we are going to see happen, not only in france but we have seen it happen in canada and seen it happen in the united states and we are seeing it possibly sort of a similar path in both italy and in germany later this year. this is a global phenomenon. there are winners and losers in the modern global economy. president trump says it almost every day basically in his own way that he is on the side of those who have been left out and who have been losers. president obama really in a lot of ways represented those who are the winners. >> i want to read something from macron here, amber, because he almost connected himself to the u.s. in a way with this statement. talking about how he was not going to just assume, based on polls, that he was going to win.
he said that was almost certainly the mistake hillary clinton made. i'm absolutely not playing that game. right from the first day is not how i defended myself or polls have macron leading but how much credence does anybody give polls at this particular time? >> i think this is a perfect example of this totally you wanted down world we are in. we saw in the u.s. election the entire political media was pretty sure hillary clinton was going to win. guess what. she didn't. i see macron not resting on the fact that he has like a 20, 25-point lead in the polls. really what that underscores for me is he recognizes there are no rules in this new political reorganization of the western world right now. we don't know what kind of candidate voters are going to like when they feel like there aren't enough jobs, they feel like they are not safe from terrorism.
the polls aren't able to act accurately at least in the u.s. they weren't able to capture whether voters in that situation want a traditional candidate to lead them through these insecure times or just complete and total change. >> the polls were inaccurate, i suppose, too, when we look at brexit as well. let's talk about le pen here. errol, she had i think we need to keep our distance from both russia and the u.s. and no reason to wage cold war against russia because it's a major power and russia hasn't shown any hostility toward france. what does take say to? does that risk her popularity in france? >> we should point out for the record that there were major rur russians banks and others who supported lpen and not a neutral observation about russia and its influence. look. the destabilization that we just saw in the closing hours of the
campaign has all of the fingerprints of the kind of russian meddling we saw in the u.s. elections and their goal is very clear. look. russia's economy about the size of italy. they do not compete. they did not compete with a unified europe economic, strategically or militarily. they would like to see europe dent grate politically and economically. music to the ears of the russian leadership when marine le pen talks about reinstating the franc and out of the nato and that is what marine le pen represents. people will vote for their local domestic reasons and culture resentment and economic dislocation, but in effect, what is going to happen from a geo political standpoint is russia gets another win. >> errol louis and amber phillips, appreciate the two of you being here bus. thank you. >> we are looking ahead to
crucial testimony from former acting attorney general sally yates as she prepares to reveal what she nose about former national security adviser michael flynn's ties to russia. >> president trump signed an executive order this week granting religious institution nor political freedom. some religious experts say this is a slippery slope. more on that ahead. 106 wildfires are now burning in film. next, what the state is facing as they try to fight them and when the weather might try to provide some help. and you're talking to your rheumatologist about a medication... ...this is humira. this is humira helping to relieve my pain... ...and protect my joints from further damage. humira has been clinically studied for over 18 years. humira works by targeting and helping to... ...block a specific source... ...of inflammation that contributes to ra symptoms. it's proven to help relieve pain and... ...stop further joint damage in many adults. humira can lower your ability to fight infections,
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flynn's tie to russia. jim sciutto has more on her crucial testimony here. >> the honorable sally yates. >> reporter: for ten days in january, she was the acting u.s. attorney general and on one of those days, she delivered a forceful warning to the white house regarding then national security adviser michael flynn. >> i want to thank you for your leadership. >> reporter: now on monday, sally yates will, for the first time, tell her account of that warning to the senate judiciary committee. cnn has learned in a january 26 meeting with white house counsel don magan, yates said that flynn was lying when he denied discussing u.s. sanctions on russia with russian ambassador to the u.s. kir lkislyak. it described her warning in far less serious terms. >> the acting attorney general informed the white house counsel
that they wanted to give, quote, a heads-up to us on some comments that may have seemed in conflict with what the -- he had sent the vice president. >> reporter: just days after delivering the warning, yates was fired for refuse to go enforce president trump's travel ban. yates' testimony comes as a multiple congressional committees investigating russian inference in the u.s. election pow bipartisan appearances. >> we are working together we sl well, the whole commit comootee grateful for that. >> reporter: republicans focused on alleged leaks of classified information. >> director comey, have you ever been an anonymous source in news reports about matters relating to the trump investigation or the clinton investigation? >> there are clearly members of the ic that have had different points in the past leaked classified information. that is an illegal act, correct?
>> reporter: democrats focused on any ties between the trump campaign and russia. >> the president of the united states could be a target of your ongoing investigation into the trump campaigns involvement with russian interference from our election. >> from an investigative standpoint is the sheer number of election usually or significant? >> reporter: sally yates testified on monday and so will james clapper but because these are public sessions and much of the information is classified, there will be limits on what they can say. jim sciutto, cnn, washington. >> jim, thank you. let's bring in errol louis and amber phillips. amber, back to the february 14th briefing there at the white house. sean spicer, the day after flynn resigned. let's listen. >> the evolving and eroding level of trust as a result of this situation and a series of other questionable instances is what led the president to ask for general flynn's resignation.
immediately after the department of justice notified the white house counsel of the situation, the white house counsel briefed the president in a small group of senior advisers. the issue here was that the president got to the point where general flynn's relationship misleading the vice president and others or the possibility that he had forgotten critical details of this important conversation had great a critical mass and unsustainable situation. >> amber, it seems that the time line seems to contradict the narrative here, because the president knew every criterion based -- that he used to ask for the resignation of flynn on the on 26th, two weeks before he actually asked for that resignation. >> yeah. the white house has been giving mixed messages about, you know, how they -- how they truly understand what conversations general flynn had with the russian ambassador and when. you know, of course, we learned over the weekend that flynn was
warned by top trump transition officials to be careful about having conversations with him because that would put him under potential surveillance by the u.s. and that has created a huge political headache for the trump administration. just last week, sean spicer was forced to, yet again, distance himself and the white house from flynn saying we are glad he is gone and we made the right decision when we kicked him out in february, but they wouldn't say any more. so now for the white house to have essentially this hero on the left sally yates come before the entire congress and cable news and the whole world really, and tell her story, could be yet raise more questions about the white house at the very, very knew and when. >> let's listen to sean spicer once more, errol. i think it's important that people are reminded what the
white house was saying about the time that flynn resigned. >> we have been reviewing and evaluating this issue with respect to general flynn on a daily basis for a few weeks, trying to ascertain the truth. we got to a point, not based on a legal issue, but based on a trust issue with a level of trust between the president and general flynn had eroded to the point where he felt he had to make a change. >> trying to ascertain the truth. this is weeks after they got this briefing from d.o.j. is it they did not believe sally yates potentially? >> an interesting question, victor. it's interesting that sort of parse the words and really is striking to hear that they were dealing with it every day for, quote, a couple of weeks. it really sort of raises questions at a minimum about the efficiency and the effectiveness of the transition team on whether or not their vetting process meant much of anything. the notion that somehow general flynn might have forgotten about
discussing sanctions just doesn't square with the facts. december 29th was the day that the sanctions were imposed on that day, he spoke with the ambassador. he spoke about sanctions. it wasn't as if they bumped into each other at a cocktail party. they were talking about the news of the day. they were talking about an unprecedented very aggressive move by the united states to kick out diplomats and otherwise put the world and russian leadership on notice that something very, very important and very destabilizing had been attempted as far as their interference in the u.s. elections. to spend then weeks trying to figure out why their man lied about it doesn't say much about the trump transition team. >> amber, jim pointed out in his prep piece there during the previous hearings, we have heard a lot from republicans about the leaks and that has been their primary focus. for some of them that exclusive focus. do you expect we see that divide on monday?
>> i think is. i don't think they are truly on the same page within each committee about what they want to investigate. i don't think it's clear to the american public either. does congress want to look at why we even know about these conversations with michael flynn? you know, who in the intelligence community let the world and let the media know that they had had caught him having these conversations under surveillance? or does congress want to focus on the connections between the trump administration and to potential russia official? for example, we know the fbi got a warrant from a secret court to be able to surveil carter page, one of the administration's top foreign aides during the campaign. i feel like as jim pointed out in his piece, this is split directly around partisan lines. democrats want to talk about trump and republicans want to talk about why leaks are
undermining the situation. i don't see any narrowing of that divide. >> thank you both. >> thank you. president trump promoting free speech and religious liberty with a congressional executive order. granddaughter of billy graham was at the white house and we are talking with her and discussing both side of this debate next. kevin kevin kevin kevin kevin kevin kevin kevin trusted advice for life. kevin, how's your mom? life well planned. see what a raymond james financial advisor can do for you.
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you're awake! we are glad to see it. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. president trump signed an executive order allowing religious organizations to become more politically active. >> religious experts say the order doesn't actually do anything citing that congressional action would be needed to make any real change. what exactly is this new policy all about? cnn correspondent rene marsh
clues us in here. >> this financial threat against the faith community is over. no one should be sensoring sermons or targeting pastors. >> reporter: under the federal tax code, the johnson amendment says the irs can investigate churches and they can potentially lose tax exempt status if they engage in politic. trump's executive order intends to weaken that law but only congress can repeal it. during his campaign, trump cold catholic television channel ewtn he was upset that the law was preventing him from getting religious endorsements. >> i said, what are you going to endorse me? they had, we can't do that. i said why can't you do that? they had, we are not allowed to do that. if we did that we would lose our tax exempt status and i said why is that? they told me about the johnson amendment in 1964 and i said we are getting rid of the johnson
amendment. >> reporter: it would give more aggression to ease up to religious groups who get political. minutes after the new executive order was signed the aclu said it would file a lawsuit but once the text of the order was released, the language was noticeably scaled back and some on the left say the order actually won't change much at all. >> the churches of america, the clergy of america, they have free speech now. they can say and do whatever they want jo some conservative religious group said the executive order didn't go far enough. others applauded the president. >> this executive order and the statements by the president today says that the hostility that we have seen toward religious freedom at the hands of our own government in the last eight years is coming to an end. >> reporter: rene marsh, cnn, washington. let's talk more about this with billy graham's granddaughter and a key member of president trump's faith
advisory counselor sissy graham lynch and also sarah kate ellis. ladies, thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> sissy i know you were at the signing of the white house and you're on the president's advisory boards. what kind of conversations did you have with the president? what did he ask you? >> well, after the executive order was signed there in the rose garden, my father, franklin graham, and i went into his office. i thanked him. i thanked him for taking a bold stand for religious freedoms. there are controversies that the executive order didn't go far enough but i disagree. i think that this was a great first step. there was an underlining message and a tone set by our president of the united states that says people of faith, they will not be bullied. they will not be targeted and they will not be silenced in i more. that is for people of all faiths. we are represented on that
stage. there were hindu, muslim, jews and catholic and evangelicals. so it is important as a christian and as a believer in jesus christ i don't want anybody persecuted for their but especially for christians last week a huge message september because we have been targeted the last few years. >> you said today's executive order stopped short of rampant discrimination but this begins a sliply slope of a #license to discriminate. based on what you just heard from sissy, talk to me about that. >> absolutely. thanks for having me. i think what we want to talk about is actually what this narpive is. we are saying religious freedom. religious freedom is baked into the constitution of america. it's not up for debate. what we are talking about discriminating against women and lgbtq people and the first step
what i say is a big backlash against margin ized groups in america and especially the lgbtq people. down the pike people are able to deny life saving health care access, be able to deny housing, deny jobs, fire us from our jobs. if my wife and i take our kid to -- we have an 8-year-old -- ill to the hospital, some talk of the executive order sitting on the president's desk right now, doctors could deny our child life saving medical health in a moment's notice. to me that is not religious freedom. what that is discrimination based on the fact i'm married to a woman. >> sissy, when you hear her talk about that and you talk about the fact this is just a first step, what would you say to kate in that regard in term of what
you want to happen and -- the discrimination she feels? the interesting thing is you're both here sitting about talking about feeling discriminated against. >> i don't want anybody to be discriminated against. i mean, i'm a believer in jesus christ who has loved the entire world and he loves us all. i don't want, depending on your faith or whoever you are, to be discriminated against. last thursday, that is not what this was about. the johnson amendment was imposed by lyndon johnson because a pastor came after him, whatever, back in the '50s and he did not like it and he set that in order. but even my family, my father, both of his organizations have been targeted by the irs on the same day his gotten a letter from the irs to be audited and he had to spend lot of money of donor's money to prepare for that audit. that is not a coincidence they
both came on the same day. this was a huge step for the evangelicals who, in the last eight years, have been targeted against the obama administration. >> sissy, what do you say to the argument some people make this is nothing more than a protection from the irs for religious groups? >> i think this is just a message sent by the president in a strong voice for us. i'm always for that more can be done to protect our religious freedoms. but i'm thankful for this voice and for the stand he has taken. >> sarah, the acl, executive order anthony romero had a statement and said that this order was, quote, an elaborate photo op with no discernible policy outcome. do you get the sense he believes in this action or the possible intention is shut down the remnants of the obama administration? >> i think we can look to the president's past hundred days
which have been very anti-women and very anti-lgbtq and it 125r9ed started on his first day, inauguration day and wiped lgbt qnchts peoplgbtq page and took us off the front page and census. per cuting women especially around their health care. since day one. this is a continuation of it. and this is -- yes, it wasn't as sweeping and as broad as it initially was set out to be but that is comug down the pike. that is just a matter of time. i just want to say that with we really have to stop using religious freedom. religious freedom is embedded in the constitution. this is the opportunity to put targets on marginalized people's backs and use religion to do that. and deny basic health care and deny housing and deny work
opportunities. and so, you know, the narrative on this is really -- is off quite a bit and i just want to really be careful about using religious freedom. >> sissy, when you hear what she is talking about and what the fears are, not just in the lgbtq community but in others based on this religious freedom executive order, what could you say? what could you say to president trump to make sure that, you know, as a christian that everybody is protected in their own right? would you -- would you go to him on, say, sarah's behalf to voice the concerns she has? because those have nothing to do with the johnson amendment. >> i think we have to remember, he was the first republican candidate to mention the lgbt and the protection of them at the republic national convention. but, you know, religious freedoms, i disagree, is so important. it is the christian foundation in this country that has allowed
the tolerance of all religions to be practiced here in the united states of america. that is not the case around the world. if you take take right away, it could be very dangerous. we have started being persecuted already on a very small scale but around the world, i think open door said that 255 christians are being killed each month. next week, my dad is holding a conference called the world summit in defense of persecuted christians in washington, d.c. to bring awareness to this genoside that is happening. it's the christian foundation that allows the tolerance of all faiths to be practiced but you take that away, other religions are not tolerant of that. >> sarah, you get the last word. >> they are not tolerant of the lgbt. >> i want to be very careful here because there is no persecution going on religion
here in the united states. >> that's not true. you have -- in washington state. >> i just want to be careful how we use our words. you're talking globally and now we are talking nationally. i also want to be really, rel crystal clear around this that this has been used as a weapon against lgbtq people and has been for years and years and years and no one -- i'm a christian woman. i married my wife in a church. i practice every sunday. so i don't like to be -- i am christian and i think that that is really, really important. and i don't want to go head-to-head with you on this but what i do think is what we want to be very careful about is discriminating against any marginalized group. religion is baked into the constitution of the united states of america and it's very important part of the fabric of this country. and i believe in protecting it as well but this is not about protecting -- >> at the end of the day,
conversations certainly that have to be had but we can see both of you feel persecuted for different things and you're both coming from that place. so thank you so much for being a part of this conversation. sissy graham lynch and sarah kate ellis, appreciate the two of you. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> big troubles for the state of florida. hot, dry conditions. they are fueling wildfires. next, what dry days ahead. when will the state see some relief? also -- bell believes uncomfortable conversations much like the one we just watched, create change. on this week's "united streets of america." he is walking the streets there. >> what is the phrase black lives matter mean to you? >> that is a touchy subject. >> the most notorious city in the country. >> exaggerate? >> it's worse. >> worse. >> for the younger generation, what does that mean for them? >> the first thing you put in your hand is a gun.
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racing is helping thousands of americans get their heart rates up and their stress levels down. >> make sure your stroke is nice and straight and even coming back. >> dragon boating is about 2800 years old and started in china. a dragon boat is 41-foot long. everybody has to be synchronized with their paddle. you do what the person in front of you and the person across from you does and if you can do that and the boat goes straight and it goes very fast. >> it's the cardio. it's the constant motion. you're i receipntly retired after 23 years. for matter what i dealt with on the street, when i came out here, i was able to leave it. like a zen moment. >> for me, it's about getting my heart rate up, getting some exercise in.
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